Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
Anybody played with the tubes in their Baby Blacks or CF amps? What are your favorites? What speakers are you driving with them?
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Cherry/260wpc Mono Blocks
Lightstar Reference
Sunfire Series II 625x2
Carver 490t
OPPO-103
Lucas Labs CF-14
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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
Yup, tried a few. Over all i like the sovtec ones . The bass was most impressive. I think i listened to some mullards as well as a few other flavors.
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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
I am using some TAD tube amp docters per radioengineer,s advice, now that I have some time on them I like them, also have some cryo mullards that I have yet to try, running some vintage jbl4401 control monitors with my carverfest amp along with a dared tube pre 

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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
I have been having good luck with some 5751 tubes like GE 5 stars and Sylvania triple mica black plates. Especially on the low end sub amp. For the tweeters Im using Brimar or Mullard 12au7's. I learned from Chauss that the 12au7 can be sub'd for a 12ax7 which opens up alot of different possibilities.
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0002
Cherry/260wpc Mono Blocks
Lightstar Reference
Sunfire Series II 625x2
Carver 490t
OPPO-103
Lucas Labs CF-14
Sunfire Tube pre
DENON DP-62L TT
DUAL CS 5000 TT
DQ-20's
Tesla CF-15 speakers
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0002
Cherry/260wpc Mono Blocks
Lightstar Reference
Sunfire Series II 625x2
Carver 490t
OPPO-103
Lucas Labs CF-14
Sunfire Tube pre
DENON DP-62L TT
DUAL CS 5000 TT
DQ-20's
Tesla CF-15 speakers
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
I have tried Mullard 10M 12ax7, Sylvania triple mica black plate 5751 and Siemens 12ax7. On the power tube side I'm using EH el84's and I have my eye on Siemens (German made ) el84's
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Speaking ofpower tubes I took them (EL84M sovtek) out and replaced with some 1963 Siemens E84L. They sound very nice with lots of detail, they are marked Sel Lorenz and the E84L handles more plate voltage than a EL84.
I tried some Telefunken's in the 12ax7 slot and they sounded terrible, I was really suprized because they sound good in the phono preamp.
I tried some Telefunken's in the 12ax7 slot and they sounded terrible, I was really suprized because they sound good in the phono preamp.
TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0002
Cherry/260wpc Mono Blocks
Lightstar Reference
Sunfire Series II 625x2
Carver 490t
OPPO-103
Lucas Labs CF-14
Sunfire Tube pre
DENON DP-62L TT
DUAL CS 5000 TT
DQ-20's
Tesla CF-15 speakers
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0002
Cherry/260wpc Mono Blocks
Lightstar Reference
Sunfire Series II 625x2
Carver 490t
OPPO-103
Lucas Labs CF-14
Sunfire Tube pre
DENON DP-62L TT
DUAL CS 5000 TT
DQ-20's
Tesla CF-15 speakers
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
I guess I'm going to pull the trigger on those Siemens el84's!!!!MRHP wrote:Speaking ofpower tubes I took them (EL84M sovtek) out and replaced with some 1963 Siemens E84L. They sound very nice with lots of detail, they are marked Sel Lorenz and the E84L handles more plate voltage than a EL84.
I tried some Telefunken's in the 12ax7 slot and they sounded terrible, I was really suprized because they sound good in the phono preamp.


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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
803s's are ultra low noise.....




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Oh shit!!! You're alive!!!!Chauss wrote:803s's are ultra low noise.....![]()



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Snoop65 wrote:Oh shit!!! You're alive!!!!Chauss wrote:803s's are ultra low noise.....![]()
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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
[/quote]I guess I'm going to pull the trigger on those Siemens el84's!!!!
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You wont be disappointed!!
Chauss I would have to sell a couple vehicles to afford some 803s tubes.


You wont be disappointed!!
Chauss I would have to sell a couple vehicles to afford some 803s tubes.

TFM-75 serial #0001
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0002
Cherry/260wpc Mono Blocks
Lightstar Reference
Sunfire Series II 625x2
Carver 490t
OPPO-103
Lucas Labs CF-14
Sunfire Tube pre
DENON DP-62L TT
DUAL CS 5000 TT
DQ-20's
Tesla CF-15 speakers
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
PT-2400 serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0001
Baby Black Magic serial #0002
Cherry/260wpc Mono Blocks
Lightstar Reference
Sunfire Series II 625x2
Carver 490t
OPPO-103
Lucas Labs CF-14
Sunfire Tube pre
DENON DP-62L TT
DUAL CS 5000 TT
DQ-20's
Tesla CF-15 speakers
Douglas Cables
OK ERIC, LET GO OF THE MOUSE AND BACK AWAY FROM YOUR PC WITH YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR. NOW SLOWLY LAY FACE DOWN ON THE FLOOR!!!! - Snoop65
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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
I know those cars probably sound really s w e e t (I love the sound of HP too!) but can you listen to that music for hours on end without tiring?
Half the fun is in the hunt.... Sometimes the oddest combinations of tubes make the sound that is just right for YOU! ~Enjoy your journey~

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Half the fun is in the hunt.... Sometimes the oddest combinations of tubes make the sound that is just right for YOU! ~Enjoy your journey~



---they are probably made by Telefunken-MRHP wrote:I guess I'm going to pull the trigger on those Siemens el84's!!!!![]()



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Gotcha this time Dan, the Telefunkens were made by SIEMENS!!!!!! Found that out on tube monger.Chauss wrote:I know those cars probably sound really sweet.... like these nuts. t (I love the sound of HP too!) but can you listen to that music for hours on end without tiring?![]()
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Half the fun is in the hunt.... Sometimes the oddest combinations of tubes make the sound that is just right for YOU! ~Enjoy your journey~![]()
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---they are probably made by Telefunken-MRHP wrote:I guess I'm going to pull the trigger on those Siemens el84's!!!!![]()
........shhhhh!

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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
Should have never sent you along on your journey Snoop!....
Maybe dyslexia is setting in?



Maybe dyslexia is setting in?


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Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps
Lol!!! You are still the tube master!Chauss wrote:Should have never sent you along on your journey Snoop!....![]()
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Maybe dyslexia is setting in?
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