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Post Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:40 pm

Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps

tinpan wrote:Eric,

Man it's been a busy week. I have a little bad news to report

I have your Sylvania 12AU7 and the Siemons EL 84 in right now

They are stuck and won't come out. :-s

All the tubes? :shock:
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Post Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:11 am

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I was afraid we were going to have to send someone to pick Eric up off the floor. Eight hours to respond lol...

OK, just kidding....breathe Eric...breathe...

I think the Siemens have about 16 hours on them so far. I have the chinese 12AX7's in now and I switched out the Mullard 12AU7 on my pre amp so i can get a good flavor for the Siemens when they finish breaking in.

I was getting a little concerned on my 12AU7. It sounds glorious but I started to notice a flash when it starts up so I pulled it. Apparently that is normal for Mullard input tubes. I have a GE12AU7 in now...it's not the Mullard.



Mullard flash
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Post Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:24 am

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Yep,,euro tubes will flash upon power up,,scared you for a sec I'll bet. It did me the first time. \:D/
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Post Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:32 pm

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The wife found me passed out....computer screen was on your post.....she got me some oxygen...Im better now :lol: :lol:

I asked Bob why the euro tubes flash off last year at CF and he said something about less filament voltage...cant remember exact but he knew right off the bat what I was talking about.
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Post Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:24 pm

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Shit Tinpan, you made me pass out!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:11 am

Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps

tinpan wrote:I was afraid we were going to have to send someone to pick Eric up off the floor. Eight hours to respond lol...

OK, just kidding....breathe Eric...breathe...

I think the Siemens have about 16 hours on them so far. I have the chinese 12AX7's in now and I switched out the Mullard 12AU7 on my pre amp so i can get a good flavor for the Siemens when they finish breaking in.

I was getting a little concerned on my 12AU7. It sounds glorious but I started to notice a flash when it starts up so I pulled it. Apparently that is normal for Mullard input tubes. I have a GE12AU7 in now...it's not the Mullard.



Mullard flash


The Siemens should be getting pretty happy anytime after 16hrs....time to roll some ax7's and 5751's :D
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Post Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:14 pm

Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps

Actually, the Mullard tube flash one didn't bother me once I figured out what it was. The one that did get my attention was the rectifier tube in my An Mono Block. Imagine an hour long lightning show condensed into the 3 or 4 seconds it took to flip the power off on it. That one freaked me out since it happened a couple times

For the purposes of testing I am using a pair of Snell K types. This amp really likes these speakers

So, I rolled the Sylvania 1957 5751's first. Very nice, very quiet with no tube noise. Really nice high end detail and nice sounding bass.

Next up was the Mullards . little occasional tube noise at idle, Kind of a softer bass and softer overall, Not as much high end detail

Have the Telefunkens in right now
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Post Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:30 pm

Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps

Ordered some Siemens EL84L's for my amp recommended by Eric. I will report my thoughts soon. You're a trouble maker Eric!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:01 pm

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Snoop65 wrote:Ordered some Siemens EL84L's for my amp recommended by Eric. I will report my thoughts soon. You're a trouble maker Eric!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hey I have been called worse :lol: :lol: :lol: You will like the seimens, nice detail, sound stage....clean clear music!
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Post Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:09 pm

Re: Tube rolling the Baby Black Beauty or CF amps

MRHP wrote:
Snoop65 wrote:Ordered some Siemens EL84L's for my amp recommended by Eric. I will report my thoughts soon. You're a trouble maker Eric!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hey I have been called worse :lol: :lol: :lol: You will like the seimens, nice detail, sound stage....clean clear music!

Well you know how I feel about soundstage!!! :D
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Post Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:37 pm

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Guys,, care to share where you are buying the Siemens?
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Post Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:40 pm

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Zoot Horn wrote:Guys,, care to share where you are buying the Siemens?

Sure Zoot!!! Here you go!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/E84L-7320-RTC-S ... 1c41e7c585
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Post Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:51 am

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Snoop65 wrote:Ordered some Siemens EL84L's for my amp recommended by Eric. I will report my thoughts soon. You're a trouble maker Eric!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


First of all yes Im a trouble maker...lol

But what I want to know is how are the Siemens working for you?
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Post Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:39 pm

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MRHP wrote:
Snoop65 wrote:Ordered some Siemens EL84L's for my amp recommended by Eric. I will report my thoughts soon. You're a trouble maker Eric!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


First of all yes Im a trouble maker...lol

But what I want to know is how are the Siemens working for you?

They came in the mail yesterday and i'll fire them up tonight. You're a good man Eric despite your issues! :lol: :D
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Post Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:25 pm

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Snoop65 wrote:
Zoot Horn wrote:Guys,, care to share where you are buying the Siemens?

Sure Zoot!!! Here you go!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/E84L-7320-RTC-S ... 1c41e7c585



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