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Final parts for fest amps.

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Magnaryder

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Post Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:52 pm

Re: Final parts for fest amps.

angelod307 wrote:So the amps are complete short a on/off power switch. Now for a variac to turn them on.



So...how do they sound?

ray
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Post Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:09 am

Re: Final parts for fest amps.

Every amp thus far is great. No issue so far.
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Post Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:50 am

Re: Final parts for fest amps.

angelod307 wrote:Brain, george, i got you covered. Anybody else?


Angelo.

Thanks that sounds good, I will bring my amp to CF14
Should I be thinking of upgrading the caps, if so what should I be looking at.

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Post Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:17 pm

Re: Final parts for fest amps.

BrianT wrote:
angelod307 wrote:Brain, george, i got you covered. Anybody else?


Angelo.

Thanks that sounds good, I will bring my amp to CF14
Should I be thinking of upgrading the caps, if so what should I be looking at.

Brian


Power supply or audio path? Take a look at my CF amp mod thread. Lots of good ideas from alot of folks.

ray
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Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.

Tim deParavicini's E.A.R. Yoshino V20 Integrated Amplifier, Fosgate Signature Phono pre, No. 50 and 51 Carverfest Tube amps, Hammond M3 tube amp, Ariston RD-40 Turntable w/ Linn Basik LSV tonearn, Grado Statement Master1 cartridge, Cardas Silver wire service and wire block, Carver TX-8 & 11 tuners, Carver TD-12 & 1700 decks, Tascam CC-222mkII CD recorder, Carver HR-742 reciever, DBX-3BX & 200xg & 120x, CarverAudio ALV prototypes, Alesis Studio One loudspeakers, Dahlquist DQ-8s, The Carver Research DarkStar Sub and Stax Earspeakers.

THIS SPACE FOR RENT...helping the blind to hear, one valve at a time
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Post Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:34 pm

Re: Final parts for fest amps.

Magnaryder wrote:
Power supply or audio path? Take a look at my CF amp mod thread. Lots of good ideas from alot of folks.

ray


Ray

I'm to fucking lazy, please tell me what I need.

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Post Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:43 pm

Re: Final parts for fest amps.

BrianT wrote: Ray

I'm to fucking lazy, please tell me what I need.

Brian


I'd tell you the same as I told Ray. Do the audio (1st ones to do) coupling caps (those brown ones), the cathode caps (in the drawings below the input tubes) and a final PS one as starters.

Mark
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Post Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:19 pm

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I did as Mark suggested-- it's is simple(has ti be,I did it),,well worth the effort.
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Post Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:00 pm

Re: Final parts for fest amps.

BrianT wrote:
Magnaryder wrote:
Power supply or audio path? Take a look at my CF amp mod thread. Lots of good ideas from alot of folks.

ray


Ray

I'm to fucking lazy, please tell me what I need.

Brian


Brian, that's the funniest thing I've heard today.

'I' think the most bang for your buck is to change the .1uf caps. Each amp requires 4 of them.

George rolled in some Auri's and Russian Teflons, I used Obbligattos. Last time I spoke to George he mentioned preferring the Auricaps. You've used Deulands in the Silver 7s, if you liked them, give the Alexanders a try.

Mike Beam modded my power supply to lower the voltage into the range allowing use of the EL84/6BQ5s. The El84s are more reasonably priced. Beemers has a set of Telefunken 7189s in his CF amp. I listened to it quite a bit my last trip out to VHoP and they sound great. Still a lot of $$ in the Teles.

Link to the CF amp nod thread:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17835


The mods I made were a bit more involved. I installed Mills resistors in the audio path, upgraded all of the power supply caps, DH labs silver over copper wire on the input side and the same running between the power tubes and output transformers and from output trannies to speaker terminals. All of the power tubes are Hammond EL84s, driver tubes are vintage 6ax7s. I rolled some Telefunken EL84s, motherfuckers sound great although not enough better than the Hammonds to make me want to spend the dosh to acquire 2 complete sets. I'll give up the slightest bit of bloom of the Teles to get the soundstaging of the Hammonds.

Al has a set of TAD EL84 and IIRC, he likes them.

If you read the CF mod thread you'll notice I tried to describe the incremental changes I heard while making the modifications, which I hoped might make it easier for those following me to decide what mods would make the most sense for them to do based on what they like to hear. I used my Lightstar Reference 2.0 as benchmark to evaluate my progress. The Cf amp faired well....until the volume went WAAY up. There's no substitute for cubic horsepower. And after some coaxing the bass fleshed out nicely.

Point is: roll in a .1uf 630volt (or greater voltage) cap. I would not increase the farad value of the cap. My very limited understanding is the amplifier can become unstable. Decreasing the value limits bass response...or so I'm told.

Mark will be around in a minute to comment and let you know if there are any other considerations you might want to think about or if I left anything out. Oh yeah, make certain all of the caps have discharged. I could taste my fillings for a week. There's 508 volts coming off that 390uf power supply cap. Tasty!!

ray
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