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Post by F1nut » Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:10 am

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NEW YORK -- A judge has tossed out a lawsuit that sought to stop the display of a cross-shaped steel beam found among the World Trade Center's rubble, saying the artifact could help tell the story of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

U.S. District Judge Deborah Batts in a ruling released publicly Friday rejected the arguments of American Atheists, which had sued the National September 11 Memorial & Museum's operators in 2011 on constitutional grounds, contending that the prominent display of the cross constitutes an endorsement of Christianity, diminishing the contributions of non-Christian rescuers.

Batts wrote that the cross and its accompanying panels of text "helps demonstrate how those at ground zero coped with the devastation they witnessed during the rescue and recovery effort." She called its purpose "historical and secular" and noted that it will be housed at the museum in the "Finding Meaning at Ground Zero" section with placards explaining its meaning and the reason for its inclusion. It also will be surrounded by secular artifacts.

"No reasonable observer would view the artifact as endorsing Christianity," the judge said. She added that the museum's creators "have not advanced religion impermissibly, and the cross does not create excessive entanglement between the state and religion." She said the plaintiffs also failed to allege any form of intentional discrimination or cite any adverse or unequal treatment on the basis of their religious beliefs.

The 17-foot-tall steel beam was found by rescue workers two days after the terror attacks. It is scheduled to be displayed among 1,000 artifacts, photos, oral histories and videos in an underground museum that will also house the staircase workers used to escape the towers as well as portraits of the nearly 3,000 victims and oral histories of Sept. 11. The museum, still under construction and scheduled to open next year, is part of a memorial plaza that includes waterfalls that fill the fallen towers' footprints.

Edwin F. Kagin, a lawyer for the atheists group, said in a call from the group's convention in Austin, Texas, that he will appeal.

"Naturally, we don't like the ruling and we think it's incorrect," he said.

Kagin called it an effort by the government "to endorse Christianity as the national religion of the United States."

He added: "For anyone to think this is not a religious symbol being moved for religious reasons into the World Trade Center museum is incredible."

Joe Daniels, the museum's president, said he was grateful that the court "agrees that the display of the World Trade Center Cross is not a constitutional violation but is in fact a crucial part of the 9/11 Memorial Museum's mission of preserving the true history of 9/11."
Attorney Mark Alcott, who represented the museum, said the ruling will protect the museum's depiction of the aftermath of the attacks.
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Post by kingman » Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:44 am

=D> =D> =D> Happy Easter to you too Jesse!!!
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Post by Snoop65 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:47 am

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Post by MRHP » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:49 am

May God bless Deborah Batts and her family......and Happy Easter Everyone!

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Post by TNRabbit » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:00 am

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Post by Shortcake » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:30 am

With the events of 911 affecting so many people, in so many ways, how dare anyone, of any faith, of any opinion, try to stop others from their own in any way.

You don't like the cross, walk away. There were many many many people, friends and family, that would have loved to be able to say it never existed at all. But since it does, it does.

Personally, I am not religious, but the cross signifies to me the event, the symbol of their death and the sadness of our loss. and because many involved and lost were religious, their faith, not mine.

This is a law suit that never should have been thought of, much less filed.
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Post by Don » Sun Mar 31, 2013 11:04 am

MRHP wrote:May God bless Deborah Batts and her family......and Happy Easter Everyone!

He has risen :shock: :D \:D/

Amen and Happy Easter to all! =D>
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Post by helicopterpilotdoug » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:31 pm

HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!!

:evil: Those who want Christianity banned would never try the same thing in countries, such as Muslim countries, because they know they will be beheaded! Instead of fighting to take away Christian symbols, fight to put up your own! If you are an atheist, then put up something that represents your non-beliefs! Hmmm, wonder what that could be..... The only thing that comes to mind is NOTHING!!! :shock:
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Post by Chauss » Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:33 pm

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Post by F1nut » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:02 pm

helicopterpilotdoug wrote:HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!!

:evil: Those who want Christianity banned would never try the same thing in countries, such as Muslim countries, because they know they will be beheaded! Instead of fighting to take away Christian symbols, fight to put up your own! If you are an atheist, then put up something that represents your non-beliefs! Hmmm, wonder what that could be..... The only thing that comes to mind is NOTHING!!! :shock:
You have to wonder what they afraid of and why they feel the need to force their non-belief on others!?!
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