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Post by angelod307 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:03 am

If i remember, someone was short a part or two? But who?
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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by Martin1970 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:19 am

I was missing some stuff a while back.
James, Alex, Angelo, Tnrabbit, Harry, and Mouser got the rest of the parts to me.

Thanks again, guys!

I am, however, tempted to get the premium transformers from Edcor.
I wonder if there's a matching cover that they'll fit under....
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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by radioeng2 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:08 am

Hi Martin,

Good to know you're still kickin'. Where you been since CF?

If you're referring to installing some of the "full size" big iron from Edcor, forget it. First, it won't fit on the chassis. Second, it's not needed. Good iron for the EL84 is the Dynaco iron for the ST35 anyway. It'll cost you about what two of the amps cost us probably.

If you're thinking of that round of "testing" and a distorted 20hz waveform the deal is you don't ever expect OT to be capable of full power output down to 20. If you design iron for that much output that low, then you've sizeably sacrificed the high end. And music doesn't have that much output at those freq's anyway. Look at specs for most iron and you'll note they often list specs for bandwidth at 1 watt. And/or they go to 30hz or some other number. There is a reason for that. It's not a new thing that OT design is a balancing act.

Now, that's not to say that either version of the iron that was there that day is killer for low end in a testing situation. It is small core, it is going to start to give it up on the low end as you increase power. Absolutely. ALL OT do! The question is how does it sound when you're playing music? All the results in the real world, whether it's us folks from the unwashed masses or the magazine tests, agree that the amp sounds very nice. That is the magic of the designer. Balancing the trade offs to achieve the desired result.

We got one hell of a good little amp for the dollar we put in! If you want to fool yourself into thinking you're listening to high quality sound at 18 thousand watts (as some do), then this might not be the right amp for the job. ](*,) What a greedy fool trying to exploit the name of one incredibly nice gentleman!

Ok...back to the regularly scheduled program. Nice of you to be asking the original question Angelo! That was a crazy few days that year. I still think we all owe Bob all kinds of gratitude. And I'm glad the community was able to help tie up some of those loose ends which were bound to come up from all of it. Bob planted a seed....where and what will it grow into?

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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by TNRabbit » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:55 am

Mark, can I have your permission to post your comments on Basspig's Facebook page & thecarversite.com in response to his allegations?
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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by radioeng2 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:24 am

Gary,

I have no desire to stir things up. I just think people here should know the score. The lib site folks have already decided these things are shit. That's too bad, their loss, their missing out on the fine playback experience if they believe and can't sort out the difference between the bench and life.

The thing is, he likely knows his test was a distortion of distortion. His agenda is clear. You can't blame somebody for wanting to put food on the table. I find it comes in handy once in a while too. But to do it at Bob's expense, just isn't right.

I said I was going to leave it alone, I don't need to spend anytime with elevated blood pressure over somebody else. But Martin is a friend and I just wanted to help him remember that these are nice little amps, no matter what somebody else is spreading around.

We should be enjoying our audio, not squabbling about things. It's easy to take technical things and misapply them. Just because a hatchback will open and you could put it there, I'd still suggest a truck to haul a load of gravel.

Hope you're doing good Gary and I sure missed you making it down this year!

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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by Zoot Horn » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:29 am

We'll said sir!!

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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by Snoop65 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:50 am

radioeng2 wrote:Gary,

I have no desire to stir things up. I just think people here should know the score. The lib site folks have already decided these things are shit. That's too bad, their loss, their missing out on the fine playback experience if they believe and can't sort out the difference between the bench and life.

The thing is, he likely knows his test was a distortion of distortion. His agenda is clear. You can't blame somebody for wanting to put food on the table. I find it comes in handy once in a while too. But to do it at Bob's expense, just isn't right.

I said I was going to leave it alone, I don't need to spend anytime with elevated blood pressure over somebody else. But Martin is a friend and I just wanted to help him remember that these are nice little amps, no matter what somebody else is spreading around.

We should be enjoying our audio, not squabbling about things. It's easy to take technical things and misapply them. Just because a hatchback will open and you could put it there, I'd still suggest a truck to haul a load of gravel.

Hope you're doing good Gary and I sure missed you making it down this year!

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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by Don » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:22 pm

Snoop65 wrote:
radioeng2 wrote:Gary,

I have no desire to stir things up. I just think people here should know the score. The lib site folks have already decided these things are shit. That's too bad, their loss, their missing out on the fine playback experience if they believe and can't sort out the difference between the bench and life.

The thing is, he likely knows his test was a distortion of distortion. His agenda is clear. You can't blame somebody for wanting to put food on the table. I find it comes in handy once in a while too. But to do it at Bob's expense, just isn't right.

I said I was going to leave it alone, I don't need to spend anytime with elevated blood pressure over somebody else. But Martin is a friend and I just wanted to help him remember that these are nice little amps, no matter what somebody else is spreading around.

We should be enjoying our audio, not squabbling about things. It's easy to take technical things and misapply them. Just because a hatchback will open and you could put it there, I'd still suggest a truck to haul a load of gravel.

Hope you're doing good Gary and I sure missed you making it down this year!

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Well said Mark. =D> =D> =D> =D> I am starting to now question all of those bad things Harry said about you at Carverfest 12. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by kingman » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:17 pm

radioeng2 wrote:Gary,

I have no desire to stir things up. I just think people here should know the score. The lib site folks have already decided these things are shit. That's too bad, their loss, their missing out on the fine playback experience if they believe and can't sort out the difference between the bench and life.

The thing is, he likely knows his test was a distortion of distortion. His agenda is clear. You can't blame somebody for wanting to put food on the table. I find it comes in handy once in a while too. But to do it at Bob's expense, just isn't right.

I said I was going to leave it alone, I don't need to spend anytime with elevated blood pressure over somebody else. But Martin is a friend and I just wanted to help him remember that these are nice little amps, no matter what somebody else is spreading around.

We should be enjoying our audio, not squabbling about things. It's easy to take technical things and misapply them. Just because a hatchback will open and you could put it there, I'd still suggest a truck to haul a load of gravel.

Hope you're doing good Gary and I sure missed you making it down this year!

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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by Magnaryder » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:03 pm

angelod307 wrote:If i remember, someone was short a part or two? But who?
Angelo, I'm missing the larger of the EIC plug modules. If you have one of those I'd like to acquire one.

Mark, your comments are SO much more eloquent than mine are.

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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by frenchguy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:06 pm

Angelo, Im missing enough parts to build a whole amp!! should of bought 2! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by hewlew1 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:16 pm

How did I get drug into this?
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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by frenchguy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:17 pm

drug into what harry?? :-k
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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by Don » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:27 pm

hewlew1 wrote:How did I get drug into this?


Feel the Love! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: It's Thanksgiving. :D :D :D

Hey, I missed all of you guys at Carverfest and I have some catching up to do. :D
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Re: Is the anyone that is missing anyparts to the carverfest

Post by Magnaryder » Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:40 pm

A little light reading

http://www.tonepublications.com/MAGPDF/TA_053.pdf

you wouldn't believe where I found the link

enjoy

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