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Re: BUYERS AND SELLERS BEWARE!

Post by kingman » Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:38 am

Glenlivet wrote:There's a seller on eBay right now, trying once again to sell an unsigned 300WPC Carver stereo amp and calling it a 600 WPC amp.
I have already established through the Sunfire help line that this isn't a 600 watt signature but must be a 300 Watt stereo amp and have been in communication with this guy about it and he knows. He was all apologetic and innocent about it all...
Yet here it is again, offered as the 600 watt into 8 ohm load invariant amp.
Wonder what his wide eyed innocent excuse will be this time. Mind it's only a 3 day auction. Trying to banzai it out, looks like.
The seller is whit-818
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Link to the auction.....http://cgi.ebay.com/SUNFIRE-BOB-CARVER- ... 3a620a4e03
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Post by helicopterpilotdoug » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:07 am

Very interesting. Sent a message to him asking for detailed photos. We'll see.... :rolleyes:
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Re: BUYERS AND SELLERS BEWARE!

Post by jjptkd » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:46 am

It seems like this just happened not too long ago. He originally listed the same amp for the same price as a 300x2, now he changed the listing so it appears to be a 600x2? [-(
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Post by angelod307 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:26 am

kingman wrote:
Glenlivet wrote:There's a seller on eBay right now, trying once again to sell an unsigned 300WPC Carver stereo amp and calling it a 600 WPC amp.
I have already established through the Sunfire help line that this isn't a 600 watt signature but must be a 300 Watt stereo amp and have been in communication with this guy about it and he knows. He was all apologetic and innocent about it all...
Yet here it is again, offered as the 600 watt into 8 ohm load invariant amp.
Wonder what his wide eyed innocent excuse will be this time. Mind it's only a 3 day auction. Trying to banzai it out, looks like.
The seller is whit-818
Buyer beware.
Link to the auction.....http://cgi.ebay.com/SUNFIRE-BOB-CARVER- ... 3a620a4e03
wow. thanks wayne. just for fun, i did a search on whit* to see if he is a member here. i was gonna put in a bid. almost shit my self up. cheers.
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Post by Scarabeo » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:16 am

[-X Not going to get pass you guys =D>
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Post by helicopterpilotdoug » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:28 am

No answer back from the guy with that amp.
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Post by kingman » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:31 am

He never answered my emails either. Interesting he has 100% feedback. :-s
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Post by Glenlivet » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:56 pm

It's Baa-aaack. :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/SUNFIRE-BOB-CARVER- ... 3a6222ba87

Now with an $899.99 BIN.

And be assured, it's a 300-2.
In the former post I forgot this important detail (How could I F*** that up?) :
I got the serial # from the seller, and had the Sunfire rep look it up. As that rep put it, sometimes odd things happen on the assembly line and in labeling, so there's no guarantees in life, but as he assured me, the Sunfire records definitely show it as a 300-2.

ps: Another nugget he shared with me while chatting about the question I'd raised, of the signature perhaps being rubbed off with Windex, was a little vignette about a guy who was away for a while, whose mom thought she'd do him a favor and clean the dust off his precious audio equipment.
(How many well meaning moms have gotten down to business while now grown up son is off at college, and cleaned up his room for him, throwing out all those trappings of childhood including the mint Action Comics#1 sealed in plastic, the signed Gretzky rookie card...? This was one of those moms...).
She used not Windex, but another cleaning agent whose properties did act as a solvent on Bob Carvers gold signature pen.
Yup, she cleaned it all up and scrubbed that silly graffiti right off his amp, clean as a whistle. =D>

Except that he wasn't laughing when he saw it again. ](*,)

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Post by OconeeOrange » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:13 pm

Glenlivet wrote:It's Baa-aaack. :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/SUNFIRE-BOB-CARVER- ... 3a6222ba87

Now with an $899.99 BIN.

And be assured, it's a 300-2.
In the former post I forgot this important detail (How could I F*** that up?) :
I got the serial # from the seller, and had the Sunfire rep look it up. As that rep put it, sometimes odd things happen on the assembly line and in labeling, so there's no guarantees in life, but as he assured me, the Sunfire records definitely show it as a 300-2.

ps: Another nugget he shared with me while chatting about the question I'd raised, of the signature perhaps being rubbed off with Windex, was a little vignette about a guy who was away for a while, whose mom thought she'd do him a favor and clean the dust off his precious audio equipment.
(How many well meaning moms have gotten down to business while now grown up son is off at college, and cleaned up his room for him, throwing out all those trappings of childhood including the mint Action Comics#1 sealed in plastic, the signed Gretzky rookie card...? This was one of those moms...).
She used not Windex, but another cleaning agent whose properties did act as a solvent on Bob Carvers gold signature pen.
Yup, she cleaned it all up and scrubbed that silly graffiti right off his amp, clean as a whistle. =D>

Except that he wasn't laughing when he saw it again. ](*,)

I bought a like new SF 600-2 from a guy who put his TWO on Audigon. Both were they same, except one had Bob's name washed off a little. He priced that one cheaper, and it was gone before I bought mine, but the extra $$$ for BOB's signature was a bargain to me. Vintage is part of what we pay for and enjoy. Actually, in my system, I can't see it, but I like knowing it is there. \:D/

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Post by angelod307 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:44 pm

well, that door stop of a person still only got half of the post right. description is for the other amp......truely a buyer beware situation.
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Post by Zoot Horn » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:05 pm

so,, what is a fair price for a 300 x 2,such as the one on e-bay?

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Post by kingman » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:09 pm

Zoot Horn wrote:so,, what is a fair price for a 300 x 2,such as the one on e-bay?
I don't have one George but in my limited knowledge around $ 700-$750 in good shape is the current going rate.
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Post by OconeeOrange » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:14 pm

kingman wrote:
Zoot Horn wrote:so,, what is a fair price for a 300 x 2,such as the one on e-bay?
I don't have one George but in my limited knowledge around $ 700-$750 in good shape is the current going rate.

and a fair price for 600-2 is ??????????????

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Post by elgrau » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:18 pm

From "the other" site.....

Model---low---------high-------latest-----average
300x2: $650.00 $1,500.00 $710.00 $790.00
600x2: $1,330.00 $1,900.00 $1,590.00 $1,590.00
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Post by OconeeOrange » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:39 pm

elgrau wrote:From "the other" site.....

Model---low---------high-------latest-----average
300x2: $650.00 $1,500.00 $710.00 $790.00
600x2: $1,330.00 $1,900.00 $1,590.00 $1,590.00

What other site - ??

Is there another site ???????????

What the hell is going on? Why was I not told ---
Jag, help me please.

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