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ebay/paypal got your back?

Post by RichP714 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:44 am

I bought a digital camera for our son, who graduated army basic, before his deployment overseas. I received a different model, one that retails for $100 LESS than what I paid. He'd already opened it and liked it; becasue it was black and the one I'd ordered, although better in most ways, was silver.

So, a few emails back and forth with an arrogant seller, and he quit responding, so I left neg feedback and filed a paypal claim (significantly not as described). Just got an email from paypal, and after three days of their most concentrated deliberation, they've decided that this bait and switch does NOT fit their definition of 'item significantly not as described"
so I paid $100 too much, and in fact could have got the same unit BRAND new for $100 less

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Post by weitrhino » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:02 pm

Un-flippin-believeable.

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Post by snarffydoggy » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:06 pm

It really sucks that the only satisfaction you get is to leave a negative feedback.
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Post by gdb » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:26 pm

Same thing happened to me, here's a tip, a paypal person said that I should turn it over to my credit card company. They will retrieve your money,you can also phone the seller and try to reason with them. If they don't want to play ball, you should inform them that your next step will be to file a Federal Mail Fraud complaint against them! That might put a little pucker in their sphincter! Good luck! gdb PS The Feds also regulate interstate shipping, not just USPS.

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Post by treitz3 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:43 pm

This could not have happened to a better person. Flea-Prey needs to do the right thing. Have they no morals?

It's shit like this that makes it a criminals paradise. :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Post by Reese » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:47 pm

RichP714 wrote:I bought a digital camera for our son, who graduated army basic, before his deployment overseas. I received a different model, one that retails for $100 LESS than what I paid. He'd already opened it and liked it; becasue it was black and the one I'd ordered, although better in most ways, was silver.

So, a few emails back and forth with an arrogant seller, and he quit responding, so I left neg feedback and filed a paypal claim (significantly not as described). Just got an email from paypal, and after three days of their most concentrated deliberation, they've decided that this bait and switch does NOT fit their definition of 'item significantly not as described"
so I paid $100 too much, and in fact could have got the same unit BRAND new for $100 less

If you did use a credit card through PayPal instead of moving cash/bank transfer -- I would surely investigate getting the credit card company behind you on this to reverse the charge and/or return the item and get your refund. I hope you get some recompense, Rich

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Post by RichP714 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:08 pm

Reese wrote:.....If you did use a credit card through PayPal instead of moving cash/bank transfer -- I would surely investigate getting the credit card company behind you on this to reverse the charge and/or return the item and get your refund. I hope you get some recompense, Rich

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Unfortunately, it was a checking account transfer; don't really know what else I can do but try to appeal paypal's 'decision'

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Post by BillD » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:50 pm

Rich, I'd appeal AND change your PayPal account to take money from a credit card. I changed mine after hearing the war stories here. Now, mine comes off of American Express. I've had good luck with them when an online store tried to rip me off for $400. Got my money and the guy lost his Amex charge privileges.
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Post by RichP714 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:54 pm

BillD wrote:Rich, I'd appeal AND change your PayPal account to take money from a credit card. I changed mine after hearing the war stories here. Now, mine comes off of American Express. I've had good luck with them when an online store tried to rip me off for $400. Got my money and the guy lost his Amex charge privileges.
Thanks Bill, I'm going to do that now that I know (the hard way of course)

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Post by Reese » Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:13 pm

Luckily it was "only" a $100 lesson. I do hope you appeal successfully -- that really is blatant and should not be condoned by PayPal or any business.

I'll make sure I keep my PayPal as credit card! Luckily the one money transfer I had on PayPal was when I bought my Silver 9t's on audiogon -- not ePrey -- There was a minor glitch when I used a wrong (but unusable and deadend) PayPal member internet address to put money in for the seller -- he didn't get his money the next day because the transfer was sitting in a "ghost" account sort of -- he thought I was jerking him around maybe -- I got it cleared up with PayPal and him on the phone in a conference call -- my bad -- and it all turned out OK (especially that I now own Silver 9t's!)
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Re: ebay/paypal got your back?

Post by BillD » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:23 pm

That's funny. I did a PayPal transaction to a non-existent account, and it just sat there. I think it's a ploy on PayPal's account to get free money (I mean, they are owned by eBay). You correct the transaction and the other money just sits there until you cancel the payment.
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Re: ebay/paypal got your back?

Post by tomstat » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:35 pm

Don't we have a shit list of sellers to avoid? Guy sounds like a prime candidate for it.
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