Carver M-500 & M-500T differences

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Carver M-500 & M-500T differences

Post by dms8812 » Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:40 am

Does anyone know the difference between the M-500 and the M-500T?

Also, what were the dates of manufacture of these two amps?

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Post by Ron Carter » Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:52 am

I think one of the differences was that the 500 did not have an "on" or "off" switch.

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Post by basspig » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:47 pm

From what I recall, the "t" refers to 'transfer function' and is the transfer function of the Silver Seven tube amplifier, Carver's most expensive unit.
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Post by George » Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:11 am

The "t" does indeed stand for transfer function. However the M-500 and M-500t were out of production long before the Silver Seven amp was designed. He transfer modified the M-500 and emulated the sound of a different amp. I don't know which one.

Of course the M1.0t was transfer modified to sound like a Conrad-Johnson Premier 5 (The Great STEREOPHILE Magazine Amplifier Challenge!), and the M1.5t was voiced after a Levinson design. The little cube was once transfer modified to sound like a Berning I believe.

All the power amps designed after the Silver Seven were transfer modified to sound like IT (M4.0t, TFM-42/45, TFM-35, TFM-55, Silver 7T, Silver 9, etc., etc.).

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Post by basspig » Sat Dec 18, 2004 3:09 am

Very interesting clarification, George. It sounds like you must have worked for Bob Carver at one point. My source was an old Audio Magazine article I'd read back in the mid '80s, which, as you know, can be full of erroneous information. It's amazing how little information editors actually get right.
I have the M-500, which I use for my smaller system, and it sounds and works well for my needs. It saved me over $70/month in electric bills over idling my big system, which is why I set it up in the first place. 'Picked up the M-500 on Ebay for $350 or so, about 6 years ago and it's been a solid performer.
I'm not sure that I'd even WANT the sound of tubes in my amplifier. I like high damping factors and strong woofer control.
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Post by George » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:25 am

I have been well served by M-500t also. I still use one of those as well as M4.0t and TFM-42.

Mark, are you aware of the story behind "The Great Stereophile Amplifier Challenge?"

George

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Post by basspig » Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:07 pm

George,
I've heard of the challenge, and I may have read an article about it many years ago, but I'm afraid I can't recall the details. If memory serves me, Bob challenged (for a prize award) anyone to tell the difference between his M1.0t -modified amplifier and a renowned high-end tube amplifier costing thousands more. But the details faded with my memory a long time ago. And I used to have the schematic of the British Williamson design tube amplifier of the 1950s commited to memory. :)
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